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The Universe Invents Itself Part Two
We are the way the Universe acquires consciousness, expresses itself. We are the way the Universe interacts and manipulates itself and so forth. But how many other ways are possible ? how many other types of consciousness, types of contraptions can the Universe use to see itself, to talk to itself, to express itself and feel itself ? and who is judging or looking at the Universe while it looks at itself and manipualtes itself and such ? Any other combination and contraption of chunks of matter could be organized for the Universe to express itself, to see itself, to interact and manipulate itself, it can invent anything it wants, use any possible Abstraction Kit it could imagine, invent, the more wild and crazy and far out, the better: oceans full of thoughts and emotions interaction (and all turning into all mixing and combining and undergoing phase transitions into each other and so forth, and super abstractions, things that are not moving and not still but many times more as if 0 is being still and not moving and 1 is moving, what is 234 ? or minus 45 and so forth more still than still, more moving than the idea of moving itself and so forth, trillions of new incredible abstractions and so forth), trillions of new complex and extreme emotions, new feelings, trillions of new sense organs, Sun sized brains and eyes, you invent it the crazier the better, there is no limit, abstractions upon abstractions and so forth: there is no limit because there is nothing constraining and limiting the Universe to play with itself in any possible way it imagines, or not even it, but random chaos imagines, or just anything connects anything and so forth, no limits, no constraints, all mixed up Observers becoming Subjects, Observers lying to themselves, many different Observers, independent and not and so forth and all mixed up, Subjects and Objects all mixed up and such.
So Matter is the way Information expresses itself, or hence Information is the way Matter expresses itself ? Or is Matter the constraint the forces Information to only express a narrow window of combinations since Information can be anything but Matter represents the inertia, the limits to anything ? Like the laws of physics constraining events and combinations to follow only some paths, but not all possible paths ?
But the very fact that the only thing we ever interact with in the end is Information, hence numbers, no matter how hard we try to believe in the reality of Matter and Physics and the Outside world, they are in fact all metaphysical constructions, only bits written in a memory, only information and reciprocal Information Relationships and functions, Time travel is 100 % possible: only the memories and knowledge of the past and the synchronized assignment of what is reality, the laws of interaction between Observers written arbitrarily but always as invisible bits of Information, information has no material substrate, it evaporates into nothing always, hence Time doesn't really exist, only our memories and rules and so forth. The very fact that only information exists, without any material constraint imposes the truth that Time Travel is possible because Time itself is simply a metaphysical construction, it has no substance, no reality, only events and interactions between chunks of matter, and some chunks of matter are observers with memories wxiat, but as such any memories can be written and invented and any chunks combined and anything can be constructed and so forth, so any combination corresponding to any imagined Time Travel (and also Space travel and also Close Encounters to Aliens) is true and possible.
8 MEN
We are the way the Universe acquires consciousness, expresses itself. We are the way the Universe interacts and manipulates itself and so forth. But how many other ways are possible ? how many other types of consciousness, types of contraptions can the Universe use to see itself, to talk to itself, to express itself and feel itself ? and who is judging or looking at the Universe while it looks at itself and manipualtes itself and such ? Any other combination and contraption of chunks of matter could be organized for the Universe to express itself, to see itself, to interact and manipulate itself, it can invent anything it wants, use any possible Abstraction Kit it could imagine, invent, the more wild and crazy and far out, the better: oceans full of thoughts and emotions interaction (and all turning into all mixing and combining and undergoing phase transitions into each other and so forth, and super abstractions, things that are not moving and not still but many times more as if 0 is being still and not moving and 1 is moving, what is 234 ? or minus 45 and so forth more still than still, more moving than the idea of moving itself and so forth, trillions of new incredible abstractions and so forth), trillions of new complex and extreme emotions, new feelings, trillions of new sense organs, Sun sized brains and eyes, you invent it the crazier the better, there is no limit, abstractions upon abstractions and so forth: there is no limit because there is nothing constraining and limiting the Universe to play with itself in any possible way it imagines, or not even it, but random chaos imagines, or just anything connects anything and so forth, no limits, no constraints, all mixed up Observers becoming Subjects, Observers lying to themselves, many different Observers, independent and not and so forth and all mixed up, Subjects and Objects all mixed up and such.
So Matter is the way Information expresses itself, or hence Information is the way Matter expresses itself ? Or is Matter the constraint the forces Information to only express a narrow window of combinations since Information can be anything but Matter represents the inertia, the limits to anything ? Like the laws of physics constraining events and combinations to follow only some paths, but not all possible paths ?
But the very fact that the only thing we ever interact with in the end is Information, hence numbers, no matter how hard we try to believe in the reality of Matter and Physics and the Outside world, they are in fact all metaphysical constructions, only bits written in a memory, only information and reciprocal Information Relationships and functions, Time travel is 100 % possible: only the memories and knowledge of the past and the synchronized assignment of what is reality, the laws of interaction between Observers written arbitrarily but always as invisible bits of Information, information has no material substrate, it evaporates into nothing always, hence Time doesn't really exist, only our memories and rules and so forth. The very fact that only information exists, without any material constraint imposes the truth that Time Travel is possible because Time itself is simply a metaphysical construction, it has no substance, no reality, only events and interactions between chunks of matter, and some chunks of matter are observers with memories wxiat, but as such any memories can be written and invented and any chunks combined and anything can be constructed and so forth, so any combination corresponding to any imagined Time Travel (and also Space travel and also Close Encounters to Aliens) is true and possible.
8 MEN
Part One of this Masterpiece is:
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The Universe invents Itself ...
We are the way the Universe looks at itself. But how much of itself does it need to look at itself ? and what part is the Observer and what part is the Subject ? And how much does the Universe have to use to look at itself ? And how does the view change according to how much of itself it uses (or chooses to use) to look at itself ? So the Observer can be in the form of a group of many similar point like Observers interacting between themselves and the parts of the Universe that are not the Observers (like a civilization on a planet ? ) or the Observer(s) can be diffused under another form, any other imaginable, incredible and crazy form, or it could be a set of photons that acquire consciousness and so forth. And the Observer may be the entire Universe "looking at itself" or more properly "interacting with itself" and so forth. And how does the Universe delimit the Observer from the other parts of itself ? what does it consider inside and outside, what is independent and dependent (what constitutes a surprise, something it can't "predict" against something it has under control ?), what is the Objective Reference system it decides to assign, the ground state, in order to measure some other parts of itself against itself ? and so forth...
Is it all just a trick of the mind, just logic that self manipulates itself and gives the impression of being deeper and more important, more "Iconiclastic" than what it is ? applying small sequences of symbols to the entire Universe and such ? Or is there something real and deep within these ideas ?
SO the laws of physics are discovered by the Universe itself, it establishes patterns and repetitions, but why did it decide to measure itself according to Space - Time dimensions ? why didn't it choose anything else ? it has no exterior or fundamental constraint upon itself, so it could have chosen anything at all, it can invent anything at all, and in fact our view and decoding and repetitions and "Laws of Physics" we, the Universe "looking at itself" (or better yet "manipulating itself, talking to itself and so forth") established is just one of any, one of a million others that the Universe can choose to have, can choose to self invent, just another view from an Abstraction Kit that has no contraints and fundamental Absolutes within itself limiting itself (and outside of itself, within the "Space", the container containing the Universe) in any way, Objective laws it must abide to, since it invents (and can keep on inventing new laws) its own laws, it can do anything it wants, after all it is the Universe, all, it is the superset of all and decompose itself and decode itself and choose anything it wants in anyway it wants. And in fact the Universe can choose to have an electron as the Observer of itself, or a bit in a computer, or a set of bits, or a planet size modified brains, or the entire Universe as the Observer of itself (one to one size, or an imagined trillion to one contraption, the universe invents a contraption trillions of times its size and complexity to observe itself and so forth and all the combinations in between, you invent it, the more wild and crazy and colorful the better) or a network, or all kinds of modified brains, or all kinds of Manipulated "Matter that interacts with itself" and so forth.
Hence crack open skulls, stick a V8 Cadillac Engine inside of it, you will enter a new Universe, it will be an new instantiation of a new way for the Universe to look at itself, a new view amongst many trillions of arbitrary, invented, simply assigned (like assigning a variable to a memory location in a computer) views, many trillions of new Universes, new Designs, new Brain Styles, with new Laws of Physics since the universe looks at itself through arbitrarily chosen decodings, hence laws of physics, hence Information Relationships, hence Experience Sets.
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From:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=181330
The Universe invents Itself ...
We are the way the Universe looks at itself. But how much of itself does it need to look at itself ? and what part is the Observer and what part is the Subject ? And how much does the Universe have to use to look at itself ? And how does the view change according to how much of itself it uses (or chooses to use) to look at itself ? So the Observer can be in the form of a group of many similar point like Observers interacting between themselves and the parts of the Universe that are not the Observers (like a civilization on a planet ? ) or the Observer(s) can be diffused under another form, any other imaginable, incredible and crazy form, or it could be a set of photons that acquire consciousness and so forth. And the Observer may be the entire Universe "looking at itself" or more properly "interacting with itself" and so forth. And how does the Universe delimit the Observer from the other parts of itself ? what does it consider inside and outside, what is independent and dependent (what constitutes a surprise, something it can't "predict" against something it has under control ?), what is the Objective Reference system it decides to assign, the ground state, in order to measure some other parts of itself against itself ? and so forth...
Is it all just a trick of the mind, just logic that self manipulates itself and gives the impression of being deeper and more important, more "Iconiclastic" than what it is ? applying small sequences of symbols to the entire Universe and such ? Or is there something real and deep within these ideas ?
SO the laws of physics are discovered by the Universe itself, it establishes patterns and repetitions, but why did it decide to measure itself according to Space - Time dimensions ? why didn't it choose anything else ? it has no exterior or fundamental constraint upon itself, so it could have chosen anything at all, it can invent anything at all, and in fact our view and decoding and repetitions and "Laws of Physics" we, the Universe "looking at itself" (or better yet "manipulating itself, talking to itself and so forth") established is just one of any, one of a million others that the Universe can choose to have, can choose to self invent, just another view from an Abstraction Kit that has no contraints and fundamental Absolutes within itself limiting itself (and outside of itself, within the "Space", the container containing the Universe) in any way, Objective laws it must abide to, since it invents (and can keep on inventing new laws) its own laws, it can do anything it wants, after all it is the Universe, all, it is the superset of all and decompose itself and decode itself and choose anything it wants in anyway it wants. And in fact the Universe can choose to have an electron as the Observer of itself, or a bit in a computer, or a set of bits, or a planet size modified brains, or the entire Universe as the Observer of itself (one to one size, or an imagined trillion to one contraption, the universe invents a contraption trillions of times its size and complexity to observe itself and so forth and all the combinations in between, you invent it, the more wild and crazy and colorful the better) or a network, or all kinds of modified brains, or all kinds of Manipulated "Matter that interacts with itself" and so forth.
Hence crack open skulls, stick a V8 Cadillac Engine inside of it, you will enter a new Universe, it will be an new instantiation of a new way for the Universe to look at itself, a new view amongst many trillions of arbitrary, invented, simply assigned (like assigning a variable to a memory location in a computer) views, many trillions of new Universes, new Designs, new Brain Styles, with new Laws of Physics since the universe looks at itself through arbitrarily chosen decodings, hence laws of physics, hence Information Relationships, hence Experience Sets.
THE 8 MAN
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